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Client Experiences -
U.S. Embassy, Manila, Philippines The experience below reflects the experience of one couple from beginning of the K-1 process to the visa issuance. Others that follow have agreed to post photos, and a few comments. Please keep in mind if you have a 212(a)(5)(A) denial or a case that has been placed on a 221(g) administrative review, contact us as soon as possible at dcann@cannlaw.com or go to the "Contact Us" page for other forms of communication. | |
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Jim & Jelma Jim & Jelma (K-1 fiancee visa, Manila, Philippines) Sent: Tuesday, September 13,
2005 10:30 AM
hi denise, ill try to get you a
statement of our experiences together soon, in the meanwhile i wanted to
share with you an experience i had on my 2d trip to the Phils. I was
waiting in the Tokyo airport for my flight to Manila when i overhead 2
men talking, they were both pursuing Filipina brides, the one man was
relating to the second, that he had done all his paperwork himself and
had a lawyer friend(not an immigration specialist) to look it over but
otherwise had done all the paperwork himself, he was now on his way to
the Philippines to get his fiance to get married and bring her back to
the United States as he had gotten an "VISA" for her but she had
procastinated and had not yet gotten her passport, taken her physical or
been interviewed. What im sure is the case, is that he had recieved an
approved petiton from USCIS, mistook this for a visa, and was under the
impression that he could go and get the girl a passport and all else in
a 2 week visit and bring her back with him..I felt sorry for him but at
this point i kept quiet as i could not affect the net result of his lack
of knowledge and preparation that an immigration lawer could have
prepared him for. i think this might be good for your web
site...........jim
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 10:52 AM To: dcann@cannlaw.com Subject: Re: Statement Follow Up Flag: Follow up Flag Status: Yellow
hi denise, maybe the best for
me is to try and list these experiences phase by phase and in
several shorter emails, i think my first thought of the k-1
application process is that i could not believe that any United
States official process should take that long(i was told 6-12
months), i thought this has to be people with difficult or problem
petitions, it was not,lol., my ;second thought was about the
paperwork needed to be gathered for the petition, its was way too
repetitive and a lot of what i deemed to be "over the top", as an
example, why did i need a letter from a bank officer when i have
bank statements, ;why do i need a bio on my parents if i have a
valid passport or birth cert., i would also recommend to anyone
thnking of doing this process to keep everything possible in the way
of reciepts, tickets, photos, letters,cards, and in retrospective
all phone bills, expired phone cards or credit card statements where
any item remoptely connected with the relationship is listed. also
although yahoo messenger is a wonderful and economical way to
communicate it is difficult to produce proof of contact, a better
idea might be daily emails that are printed, saved and dated, also
keep all cards, letters etc with the envelopes. the last thing ill
list in this note is to say that everyone must be PATIENT, which as
you know i am not, the government gets in a hurry for no one and i
;have discovered that you cannot speed the process, lol, i was
wrong, one more thing for today, a lesson learned,the government
does not care and will not help at all, and will not assist with
meaningful information or timeframes..............more to follow
later, hope this helps, jim
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 10:54 AM To: dcann@cannlaw.com Subject: Re: Statement Follow Up Flag: Follow up Flag Status: Red
2- Jelma seemed to have little difficulty
gathering her info and documents, the biggest problems were time
and distance to her province,its a full days travel, although
the actual distance is only about 100 miles, there is travel by
land, ferry and small boat involved, and she did have some small
difficulty in downloading some of the forms due poor facilities
at some of the internet cafes she tried to use, i do not know
how this was done in any kind of reasonable timeframe prior to
the internet, i pity anyone using the mails and courier
services.
the next part to me was prob ;the hardest, just waiting and not understanding what and why the govt. was taking so long to process what i look at as a simple petition, again do not believe any of the websites as far as expected processing/wait times., ;additionally i do not understand the role of the NVC in a fiance visa where quotas are not in play, yet the govt mailed my paperwork back and forth across the county and ultimately to manila, i remember thinking that we were way ahead of schedule when the approved application was forwarded to manila, it arrived electronically in manila on april 1 and the paper file was recieved on april 10,lol, at that time the manila website showed 20 days as anticipated processing time, during tthat 10 day period it was changed to 70-80 WORKING days, and at the same time the embassy went to a 4 day worki week to save electricity, WOW was i angry and upset, and i think the waiting may have been even harder for jelma, she could not plan anything in advance,she was just waiting, i at least had my work and tv, internet etc to fill my time. THANKS denise i know you tried to keep me patient but i just think this whole process is too cumbersome and needs someone in the government to step in and streamline the paperwork and to make the agencies share information and consolidate operations, for example why can the uscis not assign a priority to visa applicatons in house why do we need the NVC, especially for non quota visas, this would elimate a month just in mail time!!!!! more later, jim ps is this what you want or am i way off base????? Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 3:17 PM To: dcann@cannlaw.com Subject: Re: Statement
3- as i stated earlier now im
waiting,and as i wait the wait times increase and the
embassy takes days off for american holidays, phil holidays,
and power outages, wow was i disgusted, as i waited i
attempeted to call the numbes listed on the web site, they
were no longer working numbers although they still ring,
this cost a lot in phone card charges, also the number to be
called from the phils has a charge and all they seem to say
is that yes you are on the list, just wait. as also stated
earlier information is hard to come by, as fianally we got a
appt time for a physical, now we had to coordinate flight
and hotels and local transportation, jelma had never flown
in a plane nor had she been to manila, as a side note;
manila is a very large ugly and dangerous place to be, i
highly recommend getting a room at a reputalble hotel close
to the embassy and not venturing out at night alone or as a
couple.fianlly ;the day arrived and jelma had to arrive in
manila the day prior in order to be at the clinic at early
morn, she was finished with the physical by 1pm, partially
due to choosing to allow a male doctor to conduct the exam,
ladies may opt for a female physican, but this can slow down
the process. NOW the bomb ,at least for us, jelma had to
return on monday for the results and any possible re-exams
iin case of process the exams any probs were encountered, we
had not planned for this, she did not have clothes, money or
plans to stay and had return plane reservations for that fri
night, we now had to decide to change everything and stay or
to make a trip back on monday, she stayed, i western unioned
her funds andshe was to return to ;the clinic at 1pm on
mondday for the results, she did not get the results till
after 5, she missed her flight again, all of this could have
been avoided with info from the clinic and the embassy about
procedures and timeframes, ;finally on tues morn she
returned to cebu, knowing that she had to return on fri for
her interview, this really hampered her planning to visit
her family and to take some items to the family home that
she anticipated she would not need prior to her coming to
the usa.................next the interview
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 12:26 PM To: dcann@cannlaw.com Subject: Re: Statement
part 3,lol, this is the 3rd time i
have written part 3, i keep losing it for some reason
before its sent............finally the big day arrives,
the interview at the embassy in manilla, did i mention
thepart aboutr having to stay extra days in manila after
the physical to check results, another little item no
one told us about when we were planning funds and travel
plans and final prep to close up her apt there and to
make ready to come to the u.s., ;ending up having to
wire money in the middle of the night and to change
flight reservations to stay for the results, jelma did
not know of the extra days do did not take clothes of
money for an extended trip, expected overnight
only.............finally the interview, and
horror........jelma
calls me in the middle of the night to tell me she was
denied, i thought she was kidding until i realized she
was sobbing, then i became angry, mad as hell and
spittng bullets, i tried to calm her and at the same
time find out what had happened........."no
petitionalble relationship" made no sense yet that is
what she told me and indeed that was the reason given in
writing, but not explained, she had
been interviewed by a very strict and impersonal and
seeming unfeeling consulate officer who was more
interested in our age difference than in our decisinon
to be together, we were both devistated and unsure what
to do or where to turn next.........after contacting you
in the morning i started firing off endless and
unanswered emails and calls to every government offical
and agency i could think of to include my state
representative and u.s. senator, it was diuring tlhis
period i discovered that there is no appeals process,her
decision was final, all i could do was hope for a second
interview as soon as possible, the unknowing part was
horrible, how could i assure jelma when i did not know
myself what could be done, i can tell anyone this, the
government does not care about you or your happiness and
they do not want anyone to tell them ;they are wrong,
only ;with the help of Cann Legal Group(Denise) and with
the assistance of my senator did we finally get a 2d
interview later,in fact the 2d interview was exacty 8
months after jelma and i got engaged and decided to take
this step together..........next the 2d interview
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 11:02 AM To: dcann@cannlaw.com Subject: Re: Statement
4- the 2d interview, after
weeks and endless calls and emails finally a 2d
interview is granted, we only ;had 2 weeks notice
but at this opint we were thrilled because with no
appeals process we did not know when or if we would
get this chance, i dropped everything at work, found
a flight, no matter the cost for late booking, and
planned to be in manila the day before the
interview(on my first trip to the phils my first
connecting flight had been cancelled due to
mechanical problems and i did not want to chance
being late for the 2d ;interview), i arrived in
manila ;about ;midnight and we spent the day going
over the list of possible interview questions,
although this w;as mostly nerves, we knew the
answers allready. we went to bed early to be at the
embassy at 5am(2 hrs before it opened)this was
really a waste of sleep,lol, ;they lined everyone up
by appt time and type of petition, finally the
guards let us in and we were given a number and each
;time the number was posted on an electric board we
were to go to a diff window for some part of
processing such as fingerprinting or document
presentation and finally the interview with a
consular officer, oh yes you should know that the
day we were there no working bathroom(c.r.) ;or
water fountain or snack machine was available, the
kids taken to the embassy were unhappy most ot the
time. ;;finally we were notified to go for the
interview, we were worried that we would get the
same consular officer as before(and she was there)
but we got another interviewer......
i went to the window with jelma and
was allowed to stay but i was cautioned that this
was "HER" interview, ;;jelma had been nervous before
and she was again, but unlike the previous
interview, this man was real nice and tried to calm
her and even asked her if she prefered to be
interviewed in native language, which she did! as
i said the interviewer was extremely nice and was
even patient with jelma, i ;think this was planned,
i believe that the interviention by my senator, the
rebuttal by Cann Legal Gp. and my own appeals had
been ;noted by the embassy staff and that we were
practically approved prior to the interview.
after about a 15 mn session the iinterview
was complete and the interviewer asked if i had
anything to add, i asked for his assistance and
compassion to allow us to be together, he asked when
we planed to return to the united states, i said as
soon as possible , he told us to take a seat back in
the waiting room, i asked if we were approved, he
did not answer but smiled and said not to worry. we
went back to the waiting area, after a few min we
were called to yet another window, presented jelmas
passport and was told to sit back down that the visa
would be ready in a few minutes, we were
thrilled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, ;another
couple that had been next in line to us was also
approved but was not allowed to get the visa until
the following monday, another indicator to me that
the embassy was on its good behavior with our
case,because they knew that they had erred earlier
and that we had in a combined effort caught the
error and was making noise about it., a few min
later we were called back to the window, got the
visa and left ;the embassy, it was approx 1pm.,
we were starved need a bathroom
visit but extremely happy., we had lunch accross
the street from the embassy at a hotel and made
plans for the days until i could bring her home with
me., ;;we had to go back to cebu to get a stamp for
her passport by the (i ;think this is correct)
Philipino Commission for Overseas Travel, ;the best
i can tell this is a requirement that carries a
small charge,includes a class to try and prepare
people for problems abroad, such as abuse by
sponsors and tells basic sources of help ;for
filipinos in the outside world., ;finally all the
govt paperwork was taken care of, now to book a
ticket and go home, oh yes one more small problem, i
had booked a round trip ticket for myself but had
not bought a ticket for jelma since i did not know
the results or timeframe prior to my trip there,when
i did go to buy a ticket there was no tickets
available from manila to the u.s for any connecting
flights to nashville,tn for the next 6 weeks, i was
amazed!!! with a lot of footwork, a few pesos placed
in the right hands and the help of some sympathetic
hotel employees i was guided to a travel agency that
somehow did procure a ticket for jelma on the same
flight as i had already booked, although by then i
would have rescheduled myself just to be together.
we got the ticket and went to cebu, packed her
apartment up, rented a jeepney to drive us and her
belongings to the harbor, went to bantyan and spent
a few days, visited with her family and rested
finally in mid august we flew to minn/st paul to be
greeted with a long waiting line to clear
immigrations, i had allowed over 3 hrs and it was
not enough, i had to personally approach the head of
the immigration unit there, explain our flight
schedule and he pulled jelma through the line and
processed her completely at thecounter instead of
the customary 2d stop for fiance visas, we were
beiing paged for our flight as we ran through the
airport, we got there the doors were closed, they
reopened we sat down and the flight departed, we had
made it, but our luggage did not,lol, it showed up
the next day, we landed in nashsville, took a taxi
to the hotel where i had left my car, i paid parking
and we started home, we arrived in murray about 9pm.
about 30 hours after we had gone to the airport in
manila, tired but happy and excited to start a new
life together.................
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 11:12 AM
hello denise, in addition
to the notes i have sent you about my
experiences with the embassy and our government
i wanted to write a separate note and thank you,
altough we have not yet completed all of our
paperwork to change jelmas status i wanted you
to know that i appreciate all your efforts on
our behalf, ;i know ;that sometimes i am a
little,lol, abrasive and inpatient, you have
been very professional and efficient in your job
and at the same time taken the time to counsel
and comfort me in our efforts to overcome the
multi faceted effort it takes to complete the
tasks to achieve a satisfactory outcome to a
tedious and overly(in my opinion)complicated
process to allow 2 people to be together once
the people involved have made a personal
decision., again ;thanks and i will and have
allready recommended your services to others
needing assistance and guidance in immigration
matters, and frankly i ;think anyone trying to
do this without professional assistance is just
plain crazy, our government does not care about
or will not help an individual in these matters,
so we need professional help on our side, its
even better when the professional help is caring
and compassionate as you have shown yourself to
be, again thanks, jim
Dallas & Reva | |
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Dallas & Reva - (K-1 fiancee visa, Manila)
Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:32 AM
Reva is here
now!! Thanks for everything Denise!
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